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1918 Signed/Dated 4 MASTED SHIP IN BOTTLE ALEJANDRINA-ANDRINA CHILE +stand story
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BARCA DE 4 PALOS ALEJANDRINA De 3,100 Tone Lades Unodelos Màs grandes Veleres. Ha Los Via Jes De Iquique con Salitre A puertos curobeos, via Cabo de Hornos, navegando 10,000 millas en 137 dies. Regre Saba con sarson Ingles a Puertos SA Litreros in 1910. C. Holländer. Schätzler ex Marino Velero So… this is what I can discern from the typewritten legend on the stand…might have a letter wrong somewhere, but that is the story… and as near as I can figure out… something does not jive timeline wise… a little help would be appreciated from any maritime history buffs out there…. So here is my question.. if .. IF this story is correct and relates to this very fast transit hauling a load of saltpeter (for making gunpowder…) how could it have happened in 1910?? Could that be a typo… near as I can make out from the stories below.. this ship was abandoned on a reef for two decades.. and this 1910 trip would have been right in the middle of that period???? NOW.. the date INSIDE the bottle shows the same sailor’s name and the date that he built it.. 1918….so he could have gotten the date of the trip wrong… This ship was originally christened the ANDRINA… which was here name while she lie on the reefs until 1918 when she was sold and refitted… so the typo could have been mistaking the 1910 and 1918 ??? Several links and articles below…. If you’ve a mind to search do so with both ships names and turn your Portuguese translator on… Anyhoo.. this is not a thing… THINGS have a unknown component.. that makes them a thing… This has the NAME of the ship. The builder.. the date and a cute story.. nice CHILE flag too. I have owned this SIB for over 40 years, and it has always been covered from sunlight… and the colors of the dock buildings are BRIGHT … fab detail even to the little light house and palm trees. There are no issues with the item.. if you invert the ship there are no loose pieces floating around… Inspection on site in LBI NJ is welcome if your local… or just want a thrill… pick up can be negotiated… if I HAVE to ship it.. I sought council of a collector and TONS of bubble wrap and multiple boxes is the way to go.. I will ship USPS PRIORITY MAIL and the quoted 75$ shipping includes the packaging and full USPS insurance for 75$.. after I am done packing any leftover shipping costs I will be refunded via Pay Pal. I put down 5 days handling time just in case I run out of proper shipping materials...I do my best to ship upon payment...check my feed back and bid with wild abandon.. no returns.. I am nervous enough about shipping this ONE way...ask any ?'s you wish.. thanks wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?163239 general nationality: chilean purpose: transport type: barque - bark propulsion: sailing ship date built: 1886 status: lifted details tonnage: 2636 grt dimensions : 97.7 x 13.1 x 7.6 m material: iron rigging: 4 Masts (barque rig according picture) - converted to a lighter in 1921 about the loss cause lost: ran aground (wrecked) date lost: 10/05/1899 [dd/mm/yyyy] casualties: † max.4rank: 687 about people builder: Oswald, Mordaunt & Co.,Southampton next owners: [1] Cia. Chilena De Navegación Interoceánica, Valparaiso Andrina (+1899) period 1921 ~ 1945 last owner: [2] Soc. Anon. Ganadera y Comercial Menendez Behety, Punta Arenas Alejandrina period 1918 ~ 1921 prev. owners: [3] Roberts E. - later Roberts E. F. & W., Liverpool Andrina period 1886 ~ 1918 The CHILEAN sailing ship ALEJANDRINA struck a reef and was stranded for 20years until late summer of 1919. a group of Patagonia wool merchants, aroused by the demand for tonnage caused by the war, began her salvage, a operation that required four months. Manageing to patch her up , they loaded her with wool and she finally made it to New York. Berthed in the MORSE drydock here hull was exposed for the first time in a quarter century and the outside shell was found to be unscathed. As she laid in drydock her masts towered high above all of the other shipping in the vacinity, her rigging loomed fantastic and suggestive of pirates and treasure. In her early days she had been the ANDRINA, built in Southampton England (1886) by Moundaunt & Company, to which concern the MORSE inspectors give credit for sound basic construction. After being scraped and painted the resurected old veteran sailed off vigorous as of yore. From a search of ALEJANDRINA SAILING SHIP under the PACIFIC MARINE REVIEW" volume 18 which has a photo. Andrina A four-masted iron ship built in 1886 by Oswald, Mordaunt & Co., Southampton. Dimensions 97,68×13,02×7,53 meters [320'6"×42'9"×24'9"] and tonnage: 2699 GRT and 2636 NRT. 1886 February Launched at the shipyard of Oswald, Mordaunt & Co., Southampton, for G.W. Roberts, Liverpool. 1887 Sold to E.F. & W. Roberts, Liverpool. 1892 Listed by Lloyd's Register as a four-masted barque. 1897 May 14 - September 16 Sailed from Port Townsend to London in 125 days. 1899 May 10 Stranded at Policarpo, Tierra del Fuego, where the ship was to remain for twenty years. 1918 Sold to Soc. G.C. Menedez, Valparaiso which company salvaged the ship and renamed her the Alejandrina. 1919 July Ready for sea after repairs but there was no demand for sailing ships after the end of the war and made only one trip to London. 1921 Sold to Comp. Chilena de Navigatcion Interoceania, Punta Arenas, and converted to a lighter. c1945 Broken up. Ya que estamos sobre el ANDRINA: “ANDRINA” Barca de cuatro palos construida por Oswald Mordaunt and Company en Southampton en 1886. Naufraga en Caleta Policarpo navegando hacia el sur. Llevaba carga general, cemento en toneles y ácido prúsico. En ruta de Amberes a San Francisco encalló en el verano de 1899 con fuerte viento del NO. La tripulación debió quedarse a bordo varios días hasta que mejoró el tiempo y pudo desembarcar con sus botes. Según relata uno de sus tripulantes en la costa rompían olas de 50 pies de alto. Se quedaron en el lugar levantando un precario refugio y rescatando parte de la carga. Después de diecinueve años de quedar abandonada y a merced del mar, una empresa de salvamento logró reflotarla. Utilizaron anclas, cables y cabrestantes y así lograron correrla y ponerla a flote. También sacaron de sus bodegas nitrato que vendieron por 40.000 dólares. Se cree que ellos levantaron lo que se conoce como el “fortín de puesto Donata”, con el cemento endurecido por el agua de mar que llevaba en sus bodegas. El motivo para emprender semejante operativo fue sencillo: durante la Primer Guerra Mundial los submarinos mandaban al fondo más cascos de los que se podían fabricar. Fue llevada a Punta Arenas, rebautizada con el nombre de “Alejandrina” y luego remolcada hasta Nueva York. Llegó con bandera chilena y fue vendida en un millón de dólares en el verano de 1919. Este operativo nos deja bien en claro la fortaleza con la que estaban construidos los cascos de estos buques. Como podemos ver en las fotos al hundirse llevaba una carga de CEMENTO. Se estibaban en barriles de madera (toneles de 50kg). Algunos soñadores vieron en esto la construcción de un fortín para defenderse del asedio de los indios que desde arriba de la barranca les tiraban flechas (muchas películas de cow boys). La realidad que se trata de un corral. El puesto se lo conoce como DONATA y ya en 1989 estaba abandonado. Los mástiles fueron colocados para una antena tiempo después.I will be away intermittently during Jan and Feb, I will be checking emails as often as possible and will make every attempt to answer ?'s and ship in a timely fashion. Please feel free to inquire about shipping commitments during this period.
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From a Ebay shopper.. who found a relationship betwix the ship and here Grandfather..
Hi, This item came up while I was researching to find an image of the Barque my grandfather came to New York on.
I don't know if you're a history buff like me or you just want to sell this piece. But here's what I know about the vessel. My grandfather was the assistant carpenter on the Alejandrina and as WWI was coming to an end he had nothing to go back to in Germany so he came to New York. There is no Marino Velero on the ships manifest and it states that the vessel left Punta Arenas, Chile on
July 6,1919 and arrived in New York on October 7,1919. Here is the link for the manifest if you're interested.
New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Roll T715, 1897-1957 2001-3000 Roll 2685
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